Having listed yesterday what I consider some prime candidates for re-entry into Green Arrow's rogues gallery, I want to balance it with a list of villains who should NOT be brought back.
1. The Cat
![]() |
Really? "Look, a mouse?" smh. Be better, Golden Age. |
Look, Bull's-Eye vis-à-vis the Joker is one thing. But a female villain in a dark cat costume, named "The Cat"? No; absolutely not.
2. The Question Mark
Despite his name, the villain wasn't ACTUALLY Riddler-like at all.
![]() |
He's colorblind and has weak ankles; he is remarkably unimpressive. Even for a Green Arrow villain. |
But the name is still a disqualifier. Even if he weren't a feeb hiding out among the staff at a Green Arrow -themed hotel.
3. The Skylark
The Skylark was actually a villain who appeared more than once, which argues strongly for updating him. But...
![]() |
This may seem odd to say about a supervillain, but... this guy is weird. |
A bird-themed villain with a prophetic given name? Urk. If we "approve" him (or these others), Green Arrow's Rogues Gallery starts to look like Bob Kane and Al Brodax developed them.
![]() |
We all remember Cool McCool, don't we? |
You COULD argue the opposite. That these villains seeming like Batman villain knock-offs could work in their FAVOR. You could lean into it and have them be conscious imitators of the Gotham originals; it would make them a deliciously painful embarrassment for Ollie, who is sensitive about being a Batman knockoff.
4. The Wind
Now, at first glance, you'd think I would be 100% behind The Wind (World's Finest #38.)
![]() |
Nothing says "confidence" like wearing a weathervane on your head. |
He looks like a Doom Patrol villain. But he's barely a villain at all. He's just an arrow-obsessed zillionaire who fakes being a villain so he can *sigh* add Green Arrow's arrows to his collection.
![]() |
"It is also the ONLY collection of arrows in the world, because arrow-collecting is NOT a thing." |
I'm SURE he could have just hired Bull's-Eye to get him some. Yer a poseur, Wind. And you could tell his heart wasn't really in it.
![]() |
How do you FAIL to say "Run like The Wind!" under these circumstances? smh again. |
5. Homer Lampe
![]() |
Really, what else would you expect? |
Homer Lampe was a scientist of the "They laughed at me and my inventions! Well, I'll show THEM!" type.
![]() |
This is what the world was like before GoFundMe. |
Naturally, he turns his inventions to crime.
![]() |
Specifically, pickpocketing facilitated by hypnotic lights. Crime was a LOT easier where people still had CASH. |
Okay, points for the appropriately villainous use of "Confound!", but this guy is no Dr. Light.
![]() |
What on earth are you going to do with a mink scarf? Take it to a consignment shop? |
He takes no codename (then again, where can you go from "Mr. Lampe"?). He devises no costume.
![]() |
Even though he definitely had some easy options. |
Then once he's caught, he goes all GOODY-GOOD just because someone shows him some RESPECT.
![]() |
BAH! Confound you, Green Arrow, and Star City's advanced techniques of penology. |
What good is a someone who becomes a villain to gain respect then becomes a not-villain when he gains it?
6. St Louis Louie
Oh, you remember him; he's the guy who took on the three lieutenant Arrows (Fat Arrow, Tall Arrow, and Hillbilly Arrow).
![]() |
He also looks DISTURBINGLY like Ally Babble. |
![]() |
Time has been kind to the Batman mythos. VERY kind. |
This is the pinnacle of St. Louis Louie's career and always will be:
![]() |
He's the man who almost killed Green Arrow by bouncing an empty revolve off his empty skull. |
Any additional appearances or attempts to revitalize him would pale in comparison to that one perfect moment.
7. Greenface
Exists there a sadder excuse for a villain than Greenface?
![]() |
He looks like the Composite Humphrey Bogart / Don Knotts. |
His origin is so absurd -- some industrial dye blew up in his face, permanently discoloring it-- that they refused to depict it on-panel.
![]() |
Any villain whose origin is THAT stupid is clearly marked as Z-grade, permanently. |
He talks like a thug, droppin' his Gs and talkin' 'bout Dis and Dat. The Joker may have the same stupid origin, but the Joker wouldn't hire someone that inarticulate even as a disposable goon.
![]() |
Even Rocky Grimes was more eloquent. |
His only shown crime is making off with some gold leaf his gang managed to SCRAPE off the walls of a museum.
![]() |
Pathetic. Might as well fish coins out of a public fountain or mug a pencil-selling blind man. |
![]() |
"Corny" isn't the word I'd use, Greenface. I see why they gave you a green face; it's the only way to tell you apart from your own goons. |
![]() |
I think this would even sadden Killer Moth, and HE's got an EMPTY Hall of Trophies. |
![]() |
It's actually rather sad that there is only ONE Green Arrow villain in the Criminal Hall of Fame. No justice for St. Louis Louie! |
![]() |
Where is Rocky Grimes when we need him? |
![]() |
I mean, REALLY, though. What kind of Z-grade imbecile stabs HIMSELF nearly-fatally while trying to get away from the good guy? |
Because the Greenface does an Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge bit (*sigh* or The Squid, if you are not well enough read) and imagines himself framing Green Arrow for his murder, leading to his triumphant ghost exulting at his inclusion in the Criminal Hall of Fame.
![]() |
I wish he had died, because the GHOST of Greenface might be a viable character. |
Goober that he is, he couldn't even die properly.
![]() |
You just know they waited there HOURS for him to wake up, simply so that they could rub it in. The archers are petty people, with a lot of time on their be-gloved hands. |
![]() |
What kind of idiot can't even die right? |
11 comments:
I'd read another comic with The Wind, only because of his decorating options. I mean, if anyone is THAT obsessed with Green Arrow, they deserve to become a villain.
Then there's Greenface. I just....what?!
I wasn't entirely kidding; I think it's quite possible they made him "Greenface" simply so that you could distinguish him from his goons.
Should we talk about Clock King, who started out getting his butt kicked by Ollie, and eventually went on to being a Batman villain so he could get a higher quality butt-kicking?
- HJF1
Those are two different characters with the same name.
I hope we get more original Green Arrow villains in the future. They could be named Strawman, Dr. Ice, The Dummy, Sumac, the Pelican, Luchador Grande…
- Mike Loughlin
"Then there's Greenface. I just....what?!"
I like to think the original idea was to come up with yet another Batman ripoff villain: One-Face, a crime lord whose face is basically symmetrical! I imagine the cigar-chomping editor hearing the pitch for One-Face, and knowing a deadline was looming, said "can you at least make him green or something?"
"Strawman"
Now you've got me thinking of a team of villains who visually represent various logical fallacies, and their powers in some way reflect those fallacies. For example, if you try to punch Strawman you discover that you're hitting a straw dummy because the real Strawman has moved a few feet back. He could be joined by Slippery Slope, Gaslight, Motte and Bailey, and so on.
- HJF1
"hey could be named Strawman, Dr. Ice, The Dummy, Sumac, the Pelican, Luchador Grande…" Heh heh. But there already IS a "The Dummy", Mike; he was Vigilante's nemesis. That said, I have always advocated folding the Vigilanteverse into the Arrowverse; I think they'd be a great Odd Couple (the cowboy and the Indian).
" a team of villains who visually represent various logical fallacies". As a former logic teacher, I love this idea.
In retrospect, I accidentally described Goalpost instead of Strawman. Strawman doesn't move a couple feet away; he confuses your perceptions so you're always off by a couple feet. Goalpost moves himself.
Please, PLEASE tell me you know about these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGtIGA0c01s
- HJF1
HJF1; well enough to know what that link it is without clicking. It's only logical.
As I typed “the Dummy,” I had a vague memory that a character with that name existed. I thought he might be a Starman villain, but maybe I got him confused w/ the ‘90s Starman villain named Culp.
Green Arrow & Vigilante would be so fun! There’s a 0% chance Greg doesn’t end up punching Ollie in the face at least once.
- Mike Loughlin
Post a Comment