tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post2344310313255675687..comments2024-03-27T19:04:14.544-05:00Comments on The Absorbascon: Arcs De TriompheScipiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1776460225686472402008-06-05T18:31:00.000-05:002008-06-05T18:31:00.000-05:00Journey through the past, to a mythical land of ar...Journey through the past, to a mythical land of archaic costume designDavid Weedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13875241394902488088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-60367063175781085522008-05-30T07:53:00.000-05:002008-05-30T07:53:00.000-05:00Well, of course YOU thought of banding the Substit...<I>Well, of course YOU thought of banding the Substitute Icons together, Scip. What I'm amazed at is that no one at DC or Marvel has done it as of yet, not even in a one-shot.</I><BR/><BR/>Oh, but they did. It was called <I>Justice League International</I>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-6290466023785374172008-05-30T02:10:00.000-05:002008-05-30T02:10:00.000-05:00Well, of course YOU thought of banding the Substit...Well, of course YOU thought of banding the Substitute Icons together, Scip. What I'm amazed at is that no one at DC or Marvel has done it as of yet, not even in a one-shot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-58366226996802107492008-05-28T21:34:00.000-05:002008-05-28T21:34:00.000-05:00And I quote:"1 reviews | Write a reviewBatman and ...And I quote:<BR/><BR/>"1 reviews | Write a review<BR/><BR/>Batman and the Outsiders<BR/>Issue #7:<BR/><BR/>DC May 2008<BR/><BR/>With <B>Metamorpho still lost in space</B>, Batman kicks his rescue mission into high gear! Meanwhile, the Outsiders are neck-deep in trouble of their own…deep in the heart of China!"<BR/><BR/>Also Batman and the Outsiders... Been done before innit? Cycles within cycles. Interest will be rekindled. Interest will die. Comics will be published. Comics will be cancelled. And please god let the current Skankgirl version of Supergirl die die die.#6https://www.blogger.com/profile/16911822188530150206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-27873293282938605392008-05-28T18:45:00.000-05:002008-05-28T18:45:00.000-05:00I was going to go into detail about "The Terminatr...I was going to go into detail about "The Terminatrix Objective", but I can't improve upon what you said. Except I actually liked it.<BR/><BR/>Bet you didn't know that Kang actually conquered the 20th century. Oh, not in the sense of military conquest, but in terms of shaping technological advancement to his liking. He'd introduce a piece of technology here or inspire a genius there, and shaped the 20th century to his liking. I think that's pretty cool; if nothing else it explains the availability of high tech in 1940.<BR/><BR/>I guess that works out to "Your whole world is a lie!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-24684348382967467392008-05-28T16:32:00.000-05:002008-05-28T16:32:00.000-05:00You Mean, Everything I Knew About Myself Wasn´t a ...You Mean, Everything I Knew About Myself Wasn´t a Lie After All...?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-54852562659352256242008-05-28T15:41:00.000-05:002008-05-28T15:41:00.000-05:00"Or at Marvel, we could read the adventures of Joh..."Or at Marvel, we could read the adventures of John Walker, Thunderstrike, War Machine & others I'm probably mercifully forgetting."<BR/><BR/>There was an Avengers miniseries about 15 years ago that did exactly that - Avengers: The Termanatrix Objective, if I am remembering this awful title correctly. Awful series as well, dealing with Kang continuity (Marvel is periodically obsessed with clearing up Kang continuity, something that makes even long-time Avengers fans want to die).<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, yeah, this is an amazing list. It is downright bizarre just how many major superheroes from both companies - and even the major Image heroes, for goodness' sake! - have experienced all these story cycles. It is downright depressing...Tegan O'Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14815842488966694944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1131475034428963452008-05-28T11:29:00.000-05:002008-05-28T11:29:00.000-05:00Dipping into series at or nearing cancellation is ...Dipping into series at or nearing cancellation is always the best. Creators are usually fans hoping to save the book, and regardless, they have tons more storytelling latitude.Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-19820874548414920572008-05-28T07:39:00.000-05:002008-05-28T07:39:00.000-05:00There's also the related 'bouncing around the time...<I>There's also the related 'bouncing around the timestream' plotline that quite a few characters have had to put up with.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, one of my all-time favorite "story arcs" used that idea, but before it became trite: <I>Marvel Team-Up</I> #'s 41-46, 1975. (I acknowledge that some of those issues were done as deus ex machinas to promote series that were on the verge of cancellation, such as Killraven and Deathlok; but Mantlo made it work for me.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-88268195144980059502008-05-28T01:01:00.000-05:002008-05-28T01:01:00.000-05:00Someone needs to add these to TVTropes immediately...Someone needs to add these to <A HREF="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ComicBookTropes" REL="nofollow">TVTropes</A> immediately.<BR/><BR/>In fact, I bet some are already there.<BR/><BR/>I'd check, but I know from experience that if I click one single link on that site, I'll spend the next six hours reading more about Pokemon or somesuch than I ever wanted to know.Derekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14326906935557548236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-88690152322077916732008-05-28T00:00:00.000-05:002008-05-28T00:00:00.000-05:00How many characters have turned into energy/mutate...How many characters have turned into energy/mutated further beyond their original form? <BR/><BR/>Geez even Superman fell into this one.<BR/><BR/>LaurenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-67951681602825179742008-05-27T21:28:00.000-05:002008-05-27T21:28:00.000-05:00Did anyone mention Wonder Woman yet? She spent 6 m...Did anyone mention Wonder Woman yet? She spent 6 months or more in space bondage with space pirates during the Messner-Loebs run...Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-65659272484526873892008-05-27T20:13:00.000-05:002008-05-27T20:13:00.000-05:00O good lord, plok is right. That arc needs a stak...O good lord, plok is right. That arc needs a stake driven though its creatively-barren heart...Jacob T. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02575549001627195334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-35127876770697995402008-05-27T19:14:00.000-05:002008-05-27T19:14:00.000-05:00"In the future, I'm a villain!""In the future, I'm a villain!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-6843354130330125962008-05-27T18:32:00.000-05:002008-05-27T18:32:00.000-05:00"My powers are threatening to kill me / consume me..."My powers are threatening to kill me / consume me!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-70073442637744496962008-05-27T17:41:00.000-05:002008-05-27T17:41:00.000-05:00> "After all these months....> (blank) has returne...> "After all these months....<BR/>> (blank) has returned to my life!"<BR/><BR/>Barry Allen makes a living with that plot!<BR/><BR/>Also, a plot nobody has mentioned yet:<BR/><BR/>I am having a dream sequence / Traveled to another dimension where all my friends and enemies look like characters from Alice in Wonderland / Wiard of Oz / Fairy Tales!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-30720394871717613292008-05-27T17:01:00.000-05:002008-05-27T17:01:00.000-05:00Hm. Let's try a case-study, here. The Flash (Wal...Hm. Let's try a case-study, here. The Flash (Wally West).<BR/><BR/>No Years in Space, but at least one bout of Bouncing Through the Timesteam and a couple of Trapped In a Parallel Dimensions, both of which seem completely analagous.<BR/><BR/>When All of his Enemies get Deployed Against him, though, it's almost always in parallel rather than sequentially, whether or not a Shadowy Figure is involved.<BR/><BR/>Been replaced multiple times (by John Fox, Walter West, and Bart Allen that I can think of off the top of my head.) And is a replacement of a replacement himself.<BR/><BR/>New Costume made of Speed Force, check.<BR/><BR/>Keystone/Central City tends not to be Destroyed so much as Misplaced, on a couple of occasions. So another partial hit.<BR/><BR/>At least one of the Parallel Dimensions was one where he had less Official Sanction than the average Costumed Vigilante.<BR/><BR/>The next two are really one big arc, really. And one that's never really come down on Wally, although there are a couple of arcs where Linda is in hiding, erased from existance, or afflicted by Amnesia to get partial credit in.<BR/><BR/>The 'Leadership Arc' is tougher to fit, although the related version with 'Parent' or 'Mentor' would score a hit.<BR/><BR/>Everything a Lie: Well, there's the Speed Force reveal, of course. And the 'Barry mindwiped people' reveal post-IC. But no full-on, Swamp Thing-level reinventions...<BR/><BR/>So, no complete misses, but more than a few only-partial hits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-42178733080939333252008-05-27T15:53:00.000-05:002008-05-27T15:53:00.000-05:00Also: I've lost my superpowers (at least temporar...Also: I've lost my superpowers (at least temporarily), but I still have to fight a supervillain to prove that I'm a hero even without the powers.<BR/><BR/>Most recently seen with Superman in Action Comics in the six-part Legion story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-45198738601468529082008-05-27T15:52:00.000-05:002008-05-27T15:52:00.000-05:00Jonny, I guess you didn't read my post of December...Jonny, I guess you didn't read my post of December 12, 2005...!Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-37284070484629755392008-05-27T15:51:00.000-05:002008-05-27T15:51:00.000-05:00You know, thinking about it, I'm really amazed tha...You know, thinking about it, I'm really amazed that no one at DC or Marvel has thought to put all those substitute heroes on a team together. SOMEONE would want to read the advetnures of Jean-Paul Valley, Artemis, John Henry Irons, Arthur Curry Jr., Ryan Choi and Kyle Rayner all together, right?<BR/><BR/>Or at Marvel, we could read the adventures of John Walker, Thunderstrike, War Machine & others I'm probably mercifully forgetting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-44932578480771491752008-05-27T14:04:00.000-05:002008-05-27T14:04:00.000-05:00Arcs, as any Biblical scholar will tell you, are j...<I>Arcs, as any Biblical scholar will tell you, are just time-killers for treading water while waiting to start life anew.</I><BR/><BR/>THAT....is beautiful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-18786973318697242282008-05-27T13:24:00.000-05:002008-05-27T13:24:00.000-05:00"the arc of What Ever Happened to the Man of Tomor..."the arc of What Ever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow, too."<BR/><BR/>And it was GREAT there, Jacob, for two reasons (other than a great writer):<BR/><BR/>1. it was the LAST Superman story, so it was an appropriate finale;<BR/><BR/>2. it was a STORY, not a frickin' year-long arc.<BR/><BR/>Arcs, as any Biblical scholar will tell you, are just time-killers for treading water while waiting to start life anew.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-33267256978607306212008-05-27T13:17:00.000-05:002008-05-27T13:17:00.000-05:00lol, wow.off the top of my head:1. Starman "stars ...lol, wow.<BR/>off the top of my head:<BR/>1. Starman "stars my destination"<BR/>2. "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?"<BR/>3. All Star Superman #9<BR/>4. Blue Beetle, I can't believe it's not the JL<BR/><BR/>oh never mind, too many examples for the last few!Brushwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13103181968128910654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-80124538577137248582008-05-27T12:37:00.001-05:002008-05-27T12:37:00.001-05:00Oh, and lest we forget:"Let someone else be (blank...Oh, and lest we forget:<BR/><BR/>"Let someone else be (blank)! I quit!!"<BR/><BR/>Iron Man, Captain America, Green Lantern, the Atom, Batman I think...any others?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-10206747972701024422008-05-27T12:37:00.000-05:002008-05-27T12:37:00.000-05:00Don't forget the X-Men (multiple times) and the Hu...Don't forget the X-Men (multiple times) and the Hulk for the outer-space sabbatical list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com