tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post115488276389973095..comments2024-03-27T19:04:14.544-05:00Comments on The Absorbascon: A Serious Difference Between DC and MarvelScipiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-62159600125007339122017-11-23T14:36:29.993-05:002017-11-23T14:36:29.993-05:00DC have more recognizable heroes you'd know wi...DC have more recognizable heroes you'd know without needing to be a fan e.g superman. and shockingly i prefer their movies, i like the darker tone and the actors, especially after watching Wonder Woman; i can't help it. but no matter what i'll always be a fan of both andi'd always go pay for their films<br />eu4 console commandshttp://eu4consolecommands.com/europa-universalis-4-cheats-codes/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-39471795332231904102017-10-25T10:26:51.538-05:002017-10-25T10:26:51.538-05:00Ech - just realized, Barry DID marry Iris. It'...Ech - just realized, Barry DID marry Iris. It's still pretty similar, though.<br />I also suppose you could add the Shazam! lightning bolt to the recognizable insignia list as wellRedforcenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-73935469813570892562017-10-25T10:22:06.605-05:002017-10-25T10:22:06.605-05:00OK, commenting on an 11 year old post is probably ...OK, commenting on an 11 year old post is probably stupid, but...<br />I responded earlier that Spider-man <=> Flash, because of both heroes'<br />"iconic status, colorful costume, 'dysfunctional' supporting cast, and wacky Rogues Gallery"<br />Some more similarities:<br />- Both Barry and Peter are science nerds.<br />- Both Barry and Peter married girls they dated later instead of their first loves (who were both killed by one of their arch-enemies)<br />- Both Rogues Galleries are keyed to their respective hero (more or less) - Spider-man's are mostly animal-themed, like he is, and Flash's are mostly dudes with gadgets designed to slow down / hamper / taunt the speedster<br />- Both got their start in the Silver Age<br />- Both are the first 'real' Silver-Age superheroes of their respective companies, as the aforementioned post mentioned for the Flash: Thor is a god, Hulk is and always has been a tragic Frankenstein stand-in, and the Fantastic Four are primarily explorers (they don't go out and fight bad guys for the most part).<br />- Both have iconic costume logos (really, who else besides these two, Batman, Superman, and GL have instantly-recognizable insignia? The FF, maybe. Don't say Cap, because that's his shield, not his costume insignia. Same for Wonder Woman - the 'WW' is not really an insignia)<br />Redforcenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-7328581097670636792009-09-01T08:40:36.667-05:002009-09-01T08:40:36.667-05:00OK, aside from the fact that I'm not 100% conv...OK, aside from the fact that I'm not 100% convinced by your premise (I'd say 65%, tops. Both companies have been imitating each other's trends and tropes for long enough that you can find places where DC is trying to be like Marvel and vice versa, so selective perception is required to find a "definitive" identity for either company.)<br /><br />Aside from that...I think you have some of these wrong. The Green Goblin is clearly the Joker, not the Trickster. (Just like Spider-Man is clearly Batman, not the Flash.) Doctor Doom becomes Sonar, Scorpion becomes Killer Croc, the Super-Adaptoid becomes Amazo (not sure who the Super-Skrull becomes), and Klaw becomes Deathstroke the Terminator. (Yes, I know, you went for the "sonic powers = sonic powers" thing, but I feel it's more accurate to have one amoral mercenary who fights superheroes a lot become another.)<br /><br />I hope this helps.John Seaveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07530526320973807452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1155110108504916552006-08-09T02:55:00.000-05:002006-08-09T02:55:00.000-05:00All I could think of when I read this little thing...All I could think of when I read this little thing was "god I can't wait for the next NextWave to come out."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1155092547372148402006-08-08T22:02:00.000-05:002006-08-08T22:02:00.000-05:00"The Next" by Tad Williams is written to be funny,..."The Next" by Tad Williams is written to be funny, and it is. Not to mention some fun, lucid art.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1155013935347579372006-08-08T00:12:00.000-05:002006-08-08T00:12:00.000-05:00You also seem to reject that someone could *want* ...You also seem to reject that someone could *want* a fun book without violence.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, The All-New Atom is another recommended one.<BR/><BR/>And yeah, "rants" for "Internet opinion essays" is fairly common slang, at least in the webcomics world (not to be confused with the web comics world).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1155008764463864582006-08-07T22:46:00.000-05:002006-08-07T22:46:00.000-05:00"rants" was not intended as a slight, I was just u..."rants" was not intended as a slight, I was just using it in the broadest possible sense, i.e. an opinion expounded on the Internet. Sorry for the insult.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154992642263743412006-08-07T18:17:00.000-05:002006-08-07T18:17:00.000-05:00The All-New Atom seems pretty fun after the first ...The All-New Atom seems pretty fun after the first couple of issues.Matthew Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01007497367844755093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154991255100197522006-08-07T17:54:00.000-05:002006-08-07T17:54:00.000-05:00Well, they're not current, but I maintain that the...Well, they're not current, but I maintain that there are few DC books more fun than Preacher and Transmetropolitan.Rob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07331286524477806963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154987965105030632006-08-07T16:59:00.000-05:002006-08-07T16:59:00.000-05:00I'd say Secret Six, Teen Titans, Green Lantern Cor...<I>I'd say Secret Six, Teen Titans, Green Lantern Corps, 52, and possibly Blue Beetle don't really fit the kind of fun he's looking for. (Not that I don't enjoy all those series myself, mind you.) </I><BR/><BR/>I'm sure he wouldn't. His question implies that a book has to be either/or... either fun OR violent. I reject that arguement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154987200858435992006-08-07T16:46:00.000-05:002006-08-07T16:46:00.000-05:00This is why Doctor Domino and his kind will never ...<A HREF="http://www.pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF029AD-Genius_Sir.jpg" REL="nofollow"> This</A> is why Doctor Domino and his kind will never be taken seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154981619740922072006-08-07T15:13:00.000-05:002006-08-07T15:13:00.000-05:00I agree with your overall assessment, Scipio, and ...I agree with your overall assessment, Scipio, and recommend the Steve Gerber Defenders comics for "when serious super-heroes go silly, but don't seem to know it."<BR/><BR/>I think the 2 companies are a bit more like each other (or more like Marvel, anyway) with all the Civil Warring and Annihilating and Crisising and 52-ing. The way writers & artists jump from company to company tends to mix up the companies' identities, I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154981513915482432006-08-07T15:11:00.000-05:002006-08-07T15:11:00.000-05:00I'd say Secret Six, Teen Titans, Green Lantern Cor...I'd say Secret Six, Teen Titans, Green Lantern Corps, 52, and possibly Blue Beetle don't really fit the kind of fun he's looking for. (Not that I don't enjoy all those series myself, mind you.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154979861740941052006-08-07T14:44:00.000-05:002006-08-07T14:44:00.000-05:00Surely there's something a little mean about Funky...Surely there's something a little mean about Funky Flashman (and Houseroy!)despite the joke? Similarly Jim Shooter gets done over in Legends by Guy Gardner...has Marvel ever made caricatures of DC staff?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154979399717106862006-08-07T14:36:00.000-05:002006-08-07T14:36:00.000-05:00Please, are there any current DC series which prin...<I>Please, are there any current DC series which print fun material on a regular basis? I'd buy that! </I><BR/><BR/>Action Comics, Superman, and All-Star Superman. Detective Comics. Birds Of Prey and Secret Six. Manhunter. Teen Titans. Blue Beetle. Green Lantern Corps. 52. Supergirl & The Legion Of Super-Heroes. Agents Of Atlas and She-Hulk. Oh wait... those last two are Marvel.<BR/><BR/>I find all of these fun, and all of them occasionally has a "Joker shot someone in the spine" moment. That's because superhero comics are occassionally violent! <BR/><BR/>Fortunately, it's all fiction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154977927950204472006-08-07T14:12:00.000-05:002006-08-07T14:12:00.000-05:00Little known fact: the Joker invented the man-purs...Little known fact: the Joker invented the man-purse. That where all his money actually comes from.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154976677556286702006-08-07T13:51:00.000-05:002006-08-07T13:51:00.000-05:00Preach it as it is, Bat-Mite! I too find myself ha...Preach it as it is, Bat-Mite! I too find myself hard-pressed to read new comics for almost the exact reasons (as well as the added evil that they got rid of classic Killer Moth).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154975852265481082006-08-07T13:37:00.000-05:002006-08-07T13:37:00.000-05:00That is why I cannot read modern comics! I just re...<I>That</I> is why I cannot read modern comics! I just realized it! It is because they're too serious. They tell a story much better now than they did in the Silver Age, but the stories they tell aren't worth reading. I don't want to read about a homicidal Joker shooting people in the spine! I want to read about the Joker slapping Batman with his Duffel Bag! (Or man-purse, whatever.)<BR/><BR/>Even though DC is, on the whole, sillier than Marvel, it's still too serious. JLU didn't take itself seriously, I think Bruce Timm understands. (Even though he is a big Marvel fan.) Having Batman sing "Am I Blue" in a nightclub to change Wonder Woman back from a pig is something DC would never print today. <BR/><BR/>Please, are there any current DC series which print fun material on a regular basis? I'd buy that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154974948524286422006-08-07T13:22:00.000-05:002006-08-07T13:22:00.000-05:00I'll agree with you, since we're admittedly painti...I'll agree with you, since we're admittedly painting in broad strokes.<BR/><BR/>I think Marvel tends more toward f@#$ yeah! moments (like Punisher killing a drug dealer so he can get into the same prison that's holding Matt Murdock) while the best DC moments revel in over-the-top absurdity (Dr. Virus!)<BR/><BR/>Oh yes, and the Grey Gargoyle becomes+ the Silver Ghost in the DC universe. Kind of an even trade there.Marc Burkhardthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06949686463975572297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154951389034604332006-08-07T06:49:00.000-05:002006-08-07T06:49:00.000-05:00Stan Lee becomes Funky Flashman...It also seems th...Stan Lee becomes Funky Flashman...<BR/><BR/>It also seems that Marvel is a little more mean spirited in their parodies.Brandon Bragghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04767770844982082169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154950212198365862006-08-07T06:30:00.000-05:002006-08-07T06:30:00.000-05:00"Lighter Side of Dr. Psycho?"Dr. "these glasses ma..."Lighter Side of Dr. Psycho?"<BR/><BR/>Dr. "these glasses make me look good" Psycho? Yes, Dr. Psycho is often funny.<BR/><BR/>Never pleasant, but often funny.<BR/><BR/>"Chemo has a lighter side!?!?!"<BR/><BR/>Oop.<BR/><BR/>"Remember that issue of Peter David's Supergirl where Chemo went on and on"<BR/><BR/>Fortunaely, no. And "Peter David's Anything" is really about Peter David; 'mis-re-intepreting' characters is what he does.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154949141656973212006-08-07T06:12:00.000-05:002006-08-07T06:12:00.000-05:00Chemo has a lighter side!?!?!Chemo has a lighter side!?!?!naladahchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02105525754360171571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154948772925083692006-08-07T06:06:00.000-05:002006-08-07T06:06:00.000-05:00My take on this is that the DC universe tends to b...My take on this is that the DC universe tends to be silly whereas the Marvel universe tends to be serious. Except when Marvel tries to do silly or DC tries to do serious, of course.<BR/><BR/>However, I feel that Marvel's attempts at humour work better than DC's because it's like humour in our serious world - it contrasts with all the serious stuff. <BR/><BR/>Whereas DC doing humour/silly in a generally silly universe is just silly.<BR/><BR/><I>When I talk to DC readers, I hear them say things like, "my comics were so much fun this week!" (assuming, you know, that they think decapitations, eye-gougings, sunderance, and rape are "fun").</I><BR/><BR/>And that sentence makes it sound like you're saying that it is the <B>readers</B> that think DC is not as serious and more fun. Not the comics themselves.<BR/><BR/>So is it simply an assumed difference or an actual difference, I wonder?S Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14356657498264383431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1154947320948584302006-08-07T05:42:00.000-05:002006-08-07T05:42:00.000-05:00"But as is the law in comic books, all things inno..."But as is the law in comic books, all things innocent must be spoiled..." (from one of your earlier entries)<BR/><BR/>Just you wait, eventually ALL DC villains will become just like Marvel villains. It's started already, you know. Remember that issue of Peter David's Supergirl where Chemo went on and on about all his issues and problems? CHEMO fer cryin' out loud! Ah well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com