tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post115032599679271144..comments2024-03-27T19:04:14.544-05:00Comments on The Absorbascon: A Visit to Dr. Hunter's LabScipiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comBlogger81125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1151560218704170602006-06-29T00:50:00.000-05:002006-06-29T00:50:00.000-05:00In "The Kingdom" there were monitors....the Quinte...In "The Kingdom" there were monitors....the Quintessence..if i am not mistaken the existed in continuity as well until the retired after the Our Worlds at War story line....the linear men including Rip Hunter were very up set at this...Where are the Quintessence now...Zues > Withdrawn with the amazons i presume..Ganthet is still kicking around on Oa i think..High Father > amoung the rest of the New Gods missing but expected to arive soon..Wizard Shazam > distroyed by The Spectre...but Wait "The Kingdom" had another member of the Quitessence...The Phantom Stranger. I believe he is stilling kicking around during the missing year. He is suppost to be outside of the big blood barrier in the pages of shadowpact..which has cause alot of contoverse cause the detective chimp is suppost to be in the barrier for a year yet on the cover of a future issue of 52...also in "The Kingdom" the last "El" was the son of Superman and Wonder Woman named Jonathan Kent...and he had power over the Hyper Time (Multiverse)..It turns out that at the end of "The Kingdom" the Phantom Stranger turned out to be the same son. hmmmm wouldn't be hard to make a fellow shadowpact member be in 2 places at once if you have powers over the timeline...hmmmm...but wait Rip Hunter also played a big part in "The Kingdom" hmmmm..not that any of this means anything but i find the coinidences interest so just for fun let me say the monitors could be...1.a new Quitessence 2. the one member of the origanal not to retire (the Phantom Stranger)<BR/>and the last "El" could easily be Jonathan Kent in disguise of The Phantom Stranger..and i can see why a time traveller would want to find someone with a power over Hypertime...these are all probally mean absolutly nothing but i just want to throw in my 2 centsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1151478384683866972006-06-28T02:06:00.000-05:002006-06-28T02:06:00.000-05:00Could the sonic disruption refer to Black Canary's...Could the sonic disruption refer to Black Canary's canary cry? She's a character whose history covers both Earth 2 and Earth 1.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1151385402323222042006-06-27T00:16:00.000-05:002006-06-27T00:16:00.000-05:00I think the monitor comment refers to the checkmat...I think the monitor comment refers to the checkmate suicide squad espionage side to the dcu, which might be involved in all these disappearances.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1151308806786540972006-06-26T03:00:00.000-05:002006-06-26T03:00:00.000-05:00In science, a chimera is a thing that has two diff...In science, a chimera is a thing that has two different kinds of make-ups, like a plant with a graft or a person with an ape heart. <BR/><BR/>Kon-el was always a behind the scenes reference to Mon-el. And a clone with human and Kryptonian genes would be a chimera.<BR/><BR/>KrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150936293133476702006-06-21T19:31:00.000-05:002006-06-21T19:31:00.000-05:00"So OBVIOUSLY 52 is all about an invasion by alien..."So OBVIOUSLY 52 is all about an invasion by alien slugs...likely those guys from the Armegeddon alien Agenda mini series."<BR/><BR/>Actually it's probably the Dominators. In a recent issue of Legion of Super-Heroes, the Dominators were shown coming to Earth to hatch some plot, and one puncuated the conversation with a sort of "Remember Pearl Harbor" like slogan... "Remember the Fifty-Two" or an alien-slurred version of it.Shawn Levasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12189939336684616140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150936004341734542006-06-21T19:26:00.000-05:002006-06-21T19:26:00.000-05:00One thing that was not mentioned here was that the...One thing that was not mentioned here was that the last part of "Sonic Disruptors" was scribbled out.<BR/><BR/>This HAS to be a reference to the mini-series of the late 80's, "Sonic Disruptors" that DC put out, but cancelled before it was finished, aborting mid-story. Especially with the references to other non-DC Universe mini-series of the past scattered about.Shawn Levasseurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12189939336684616140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150918134899187882006-06-21T14:28:00.000-05:002006-06-21T14:28:00.000-05:00Haha, Clodius and Milo! Thanks for pulling that ou...Haha, Clodius and Milo! Thanks for pulling that out of the back of my brain! I used to give Clodius points for finding a conveniently-named plebeian family to adopt him, but then I found out that it was just the plebeian branch of his own family. I guess I have no reason to like him any more, either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150904746777177522006-06-21T10:45:00.000-05:002006-06-21T10:45:00.000-05:00I hope so. I miss XS; she was an excellent charact...I hope so. I miss XS; she was an excellent character.Matthew Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01007497367844755093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150869235373692212006-06-21T00:53:00.000-05:002006-06-21T00:53:00.000-05:00The bit about the Time Trapper... the post-reboot ...The bit about the Time Trapper... the post-reboot Legion did show him, but not too much. He was one of the main characters in a story with the Legionnaire XS.<BR/><BR/>Which is another sticky point, by the way... assuming Barry Allen still went to the future with Iris for a little while before the Crisis hit, and still had time to concieve his kids Don and Dawn Allen, then the presence of Bart (Don's son) would imply the presence (somewhere, somewhen) of Jenni (Dawn's daughter), aka XS. Bart and Inferno are 20th century refugees from the post-Zero Hour, pre-Infinite Crisis 30th century.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15001530336692435773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150843213194217052006-06-20T17:40:00.000-05:002006-06-20T17:40:00.000-05:00David Lawson said: I remember there used to be a c...<B>David Lawson said:</B> <I>I remember there used to be a comic series called The City of Gold and Lead in the back pages of Boy's Life magazine. It was based off of a story of the same name.</I><BR/><BR/>This is the second in John Christopher's White Mountain's series, about the Earth being taken over by aliens who travel in giant war machines.<BR/><BR/><I>Also: What's up with the magnet on a tripod? What was Rip trying to measure?</I><BR/><BR/>Those Giant war machines? They're called <B>TRIPODS</B>, which is the other name the series is known by (and the name of the BBC adaptation).<BR/><BR/>So <B>OBVIOUSLY</B> 52 is all about an invasion by alien slugs...likely those guys from the Armegeddon alien Agenda mini series.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150828897407105232006-06-20T13:41:00.000-05:002006-06-20T13:41:00.000-05:00I agree with the anonymous poster from 6/16 - OTHE...I agree with the anonymous poster from 6/16 - OTHERS is probably a nod to the Lost TV series.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150784695141246242006-06-20T01:24:00.000-05:002006-06-20T01:24:00.000-05:00Rip Hunter shows up in the underrated "Chronos" se...Rip Hunter shows up in the underrated "Chronos" series, in which he is seemingly killed, or removed from time, or phased out of existence, or something like that.<BR/><BR/>You know, the kind of thing that always seems to happen to comic book time travellers.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12575378976861832495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150748129951478942006-06-19T15:15:00.000-05:002006-06-19T15:15:00.000-05:00"Find the last El" obviously refers to the latest ..."Find the last El" obviously refers to the latest incarnation of El Gaucho, who will no doubt be drafted into the new Global Guardians and, along with the Wild Huntsman, would make up two of the Four Horsemen. <BR/><BR/>It's like this... Tuatara, being the only non-magical hero on the DCU who can peer into the future without travelling through time, has realized that time is broken and has reformed the Global Guardians to position them as a third party in the coming conflict (like Batman's group in Kingdom Come). The GG will try and remain neutral until they figure out exactly what is going on.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately they will acidentally kill Isis during a confrontation with Black Adam, effectively ending her reign as well as the shower of love she bestowed on BA. This will enrage BA, and in his fury he will launch a retaliatory attack on all parties not in his coalition.<BR/><BR/>World War III, and it's all Booster's fault.<BR/><BR/>The other two Horsemen will be naturally be a time travelling Jonah Hex and Lobo, who will have to assume the position of "heavy hitter" since former GG member Olympian is most likely powerless now.<BR/><BR/>Or maybe not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150728726055207002006-06-19T09:52:00.000-05:002006-06-19T09:52:00.000-05:00Some interesting things concerning the nature of T...Some interesting things concerning the nature of Time in the DCU:<BR/><BR/>Back in Time Masters, it wasn't Rip himself, but Corky Baxter that was killed; he committed suicide himself. It was also interesting that in that story, Rip killed Vandal Arg, not realizing that the name would pass on to his son. Rip is then shown to be present when the meteor falls transforming the kid into Vandal Savage. If I remember correctly, this is the last appearance of Rip Hunter (other than the older, Linear Men version) until JSA.<BR/><BR/>Also, when it said "son of Superman", I automatically thought of the Son of Superman and Wonder Woman from Kingdom who was closely tied into Hypertime. I remember DiDido saying Hypertime no longer existed, but there still hasn't been a real explanation to what happened to it. I don't remember there being any mention or appearance of the Kingdom characters in IC either.<BR/><BR/>Last, what about the whereabouts of all of the other time-travelling characters (The Linear Men, Waverider, etc.)?<BR/><BR/>Oh, and I was hoping for at least a mention of Slash Maraud with the out-of-continuity series...Tragic Fanboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13708469796179522000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150725739888991152006-06-19T09:02:00.000-05:002006-06-19T09:02:00.000-05:00J,That was what first made me think of Egg Fu. Th...J,<BR/><BR/>That was what first made me think of Egg Fu. The egg was an obvious clue as that was something not typically shown in a comic. It wasn't till I reread the issue that I noticed the 'shell' on the next page. At first I had thought it was a chair. <BR/><BR/>It was later that I started putting the rest together with Apokolips, the Chinese and the Great Ten.<BR/><BR/>And the four horsemen being the knights of Checkmate? I agree with Scipio, genius. <BR/><BR/>I like the Mon-El therories too. <BR/><BR/>JamieJamie Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12375226905114563462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150649367669383302006-06-18T11:49:00.000-05:002006-06-18T11:49:00.000-05:00Farsider: "3. Pluto/Hades was not one of the 12 Ol...Farsider: "3. Pluto/Hades was not one of the 12 Olympians."<BR/><BR/>Well, several different "canonical" lists of the Twelve Olympians can be derived from literary and artistic evidence. Hades (Pluto) is included in many of them.<BR/><BR/>He is a son of Kronos (Saturn) and Rhea, and so the brother of Zeus (Jupiter), Poseidon (Neptune), Hera (Juno), Hestia (Vesta), and Demeter (Ceres). Homer makes Zeus the Eldest Son, but Hesiod seems to give that role to Hades, allowing Zeus to be the folktale hero "Youngest Son" (granted his supreme position by his peers, rather than inheriting it from the father he overthrew).<BR/><BR/>As Lord of the Underword, including the wealth of the Earth, Hades rules a third of the Cosmos: not counting a somewhat vaguer dominion over Tartaros, which functioned as a sort of Phantom Zone for various Elder Beings.<BR/><BR/>The whole identification-with-the-planets thing seems to have come in very late, under Near Eastern influence.<BR/><BR/>Not that any of this would be binding on DC, since they have played fast and loose with the whole thing at least since Marston first did a mix-and-match with Bulfinch while creating Wonder Woman, and I doubt that there is recent concern about getting it right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150627934094370222006-06-18T05:52:00.000-05:002006-06-18T05:52:00.000-05:00Okay, J, with your teacup observation you've now p...Okay, J, with your teacup observation you've now put me officially and squarely in the Egg Fu camp.<BR/><BR/>And four horsemen=Checkmate knights? Sheer genius.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150625692101939462006-06-18T05:14:00.000-05:002006-06-18T05:14:00.000-05:00could the Four Horsemen refer to the knights in Ch...could the Four Horsemen refer to the knights in Checkmate?<BR/><BR/>might not be mean anything but the 52s in the circles look like the symbol for omega.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150608476901896172006-06-18T00:27:00.000-05:002006-06-18T00:27:00.000-05:00I was rereading Week Six while reading these comme...I was rereading Week Six while reading these comments, and, just before reading Jamie Ott's comment I came to the same conclusion -- the "Great One" watching T.O. Morrow is Egg Fu.<BR/><BR/>In the "I haven't been so angry for a long time." panel there's a closeup on an egg in an egg cup. All we can see of "Great One" in the last panel on the next page is something that might be a giant egg - it's the right color and shape.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12575378976861832495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150602670094191772006-06-17T22:51:00.000-05:002006-06-17T22:51:00.000-05:00Not much to add, great post though.I did havea que...Not much to add, great post though.<BR/><BR/>I did havea question for the collected eyes at work here though. By the 520 Kane page in the lower left hand corner - is that sword on the book cover something that we've seen before?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150598142043304132006-06-17T21:35:00.000-05:002006-06-17T21:35:00.000-05:00I apologize if it's been said or if it's too obvio...I apologize if it's been said or if it's too obvious, but I think the Mon-El references likely refer to Mon-El joining the current DC timeframe in the form of the new Superboy. Perhaps somehow he and Kara switched places?<BR/><BR/>gAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150577572130543122006-06-17T15:52:00.000-05:002006-06-17T15:52:00.000-05:00Anybody reckon they could be setting up a scenario...Anybody reckon they could be setting up a scenario in which Mon-El is no longer a Daxamite, but the son of Kal-El and Lois, maybe projected into the Phantom Zone to protect him from an allergy to lead, leading to him joining the Legion in the future?Mark Kardwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17791352096505994671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150576898075886492006-06-17T15:41:00.000-05:002006-06-17T15:41:00.000-05:00I thought the quote might be a 4th wall breaker, a...<EM>I thought the quote might be a 4th wall breaker, a la Morrison's Animal Man.</EM><BR/><BR/>First of all, Morrison isn't that subtle. When he goes to the "Animal Man" well he doesn't just bring back a bucket - he brings back a tanker truck: the Question staring out of the page and repeating Buddy's infamous line, Zatanna reaching out to break the panel boundaries, Mr. Miracle caught in the pages of a drawn-within-the-splash-page comic book, etc.<BR/><BR/>Second, why else would they pick the word "monitor"? There's something like at least a dozen references to old DC titles and characters in the same scene, and "monitor" is a pretty awkward synonym if all you want to say is "watch" - unless you specifically want to use it to point to someone else. Given that the Monitors were just about the only key players in the original Crisis that didn't get a return appearance during the second one, I wouldn't be surprised if this was supposed to refer to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150555832840810002006-06-17T09:50:00.000-05:002006-06-17T09:50:00.000-05:00"Someone is monitoring. They see us. They see me."...<I><B>"Someone is monitoring. They see us. They see me."</B><BR/><BR/>I read this as yet more foreshadowing that they're going to bring back one or both of the Monitors. Who else does "monitoring" in the DCU? -- Moose N Squirrel</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>I thought the quote might be a 4th wall breaker, a la Morrison's <I>Animal Man</I>. <BR/><BR/>As in, the readers are maybe the Monitors?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1150517822595043402006-06-16T23:17:00.000-05:002006-06-16T23:17:00.000-05:00scipio, congratulations on an AMAZING post. like, ...scipio, congratulations on an AMAZING post. like, the best post maybe ever on anything in the world.<BR/><BR/>one quick thought: in his 5.2 about 52 feature on newsarama, editor stephen wacker seems to have suggested that readers check out the old booster gold series as well as the old question series, i believe the o'neill penned one. haven't had a chance to poke around them for clues but it's on my agenda. anyone else pick that up, and is there anything that might add to this analysis from either series?<BR/><BR/>this is ultimate nerdery, right here. love it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com