tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post114584732631326849..comments2024-03-27T19:04:14.544-05:00Comments on The Absorbascon: Marvel, Us ReadingScipiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-15099152741576638542023-01-23T18:08:42.592-05:002023-01-23T18:08:42.592-05:00No joke, though it was recently retconned that it ...No joke, though it was recently retconned that it was merely an artificial persona (the "Snap" Wilson bit) grafted onto him with the hero being the genuine article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-43243007230327992172022-09-27T22:03:56.165-05:002022-09-27T22:03:56.165-05:00"Falcon's backstory is that he was a pimp..."Falcon's backstory is that he was a pimp who was artificially turned into a hero by the Red Skull using the cosmic cube - the standard for well-adjusted he is not."<br /><br />...<br /><br />Please tell me that's a joke of some kind.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-62093746373863633082011-11-01T18:15:41.059-05:002011-11-01T18:15:41.059-05:00Little doubt, the dude is completely fair.
brake ...Little doubt, the dude is completely fair.<br /><a href="http://www.brakerepaircost.com" rel="nofollow"> brake repair</a> | <a href="http://www.universitiesinontario.ca" rel="nofollow">universities in Ontario</a> | <a href="http://www.larger.ca" rel="nofollow">larger</a> | <a href="http://www.virtual-game-online.com" rel="nofollow"> free virtual games online</a> | <a href="http://www.macaroniandcheeserecipe.ca" rel="nofollow">macaroni and cheese recipe</a>Melvinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1169357088348596582007-01-21T00:24:00.000-05:002007-01-21T00:24:00.000-05:00Not only is the Snapper Carr of Marvel Rick Jones,...Not only is the Snapper Carr of Marvel Rick Jones, but according to PAD, they're pals. (Apparently super-hero headquarters come with trans-dimensional telephones.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1146026743677724002006-04-25T23:45:00.000-05:002006-04-25T23:45:00.000-05:00Hey, she accepted Dr. Octopus's proposal. Can't g...Hey, she accepted Dr. Octopus's proposal. Can't get much worse than that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1146023953215858842006-04-25T22:59:00.000-05:002006-04-25T22:59:00.000-05:00But would Alfred have a chance with Aunt May?But would Alfred have a chance with Aunt May?lostinubehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04343082700103486584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145981746057860812006-04-25T11:15:00.000-05:002006-04-25T11:15:00.000-05:00Marsha Mallow is ten times cooler than Snapper Car...Marsha Mallow is ten times cooler than Snapper Carr.<BR/><BR/>As we all know.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145975857765832422006-04-25T09:37:00.000-05:002006-04-25T09:37:00.000-05:00But Rick Jones played guitar...in SPACE!!!My favou...But Rick Jones played guitar...in SPACE!!!<BR/><BR/>My favourite Avengers run has to be Hank Pym on trial for crimes he did as Yellowjacket. Good stuff and I really like Egghead as a villain...if there's ever a Marvel character that belongs in the DC.<BR/><BR/>Egghead not only belongs in the Batman universe but he's already been a character on the Batman TV Show portrayed by none other than: Vincent Price!Deshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11254545092911234284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145973250683569932006-04-25T08:54:00.000-05:002006-04-25T08:54:00.000-05:00"Jarvis. Ten times cooler than Snapper Carr. I'm j..."Jarvis. Ten times cooler than Snapper Carr. I'm jus' sayin'."<BR/><BR/>No contest, of course. But then, Jarvis isn't competing with Snapper Carr, now is he? And when it's Alfred vs. Jarvis, well now, I think we all know who wins that.<BR/><BR/>The Snapper Carr of Marvel is Rick Jones. Um, yeah, I don't see a winner there at all.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14772087090448461047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145968475630472212006-04-25T07:34:00.000-05:002006-04-25T07:34:00.000-05:00As a long time Avengers fan I gotta say, hoo boy, ...As a long time Avengers fan I gotta say, hoo boy, you kinda picked the wrong storyline to dip your toe into, but that's all just personal taste. "World Trust" had me dropping the book that I'd picked up pretty regularly since v. 1 #197 (a issue that's towards the tail run of a pretty impressive run in of of itself--Marvel needs to TPB that era up and pronto!)<BR/><BR/>You'll be forgiven if you're not interested in <I>The Avengers</I> again, but as other have mentioned, there's s'more accesible and fun storylines to check into. I highly recommend the Roy Thomas/John and Sal Buscema era of about #45-100, all in the low-price packages <I>Essential Avengers</I> #3 and 4. The early Busiek/Perez trades are fun too, although the first collected story featuring transmorphed Avengers in the age of Camelot really only works if you're a longtime Avengers fan. I also highly recommend the latter part of the 100s from around #165 through 201, with art by first Byrne and then Perez, which is just good dandy no-frills all-out fun superheroing without a lot of real-world worrying. Plus, the Beast and Wonder Man! Were they gay or just really good friends? The world will never know.<BR/><BR/>Seriously, kudos on giving the Marvel Universe a try. I've long been a Marvel fanbull myself so it's worked in the other direction for me (<I>The New Teen Titans</I> and <I>Batman and the Outsiders</I> were my gateway drugs), but my li'l stuffed heart always belongs to the Avengers.<BR/><BR/>PS: Jarvis. Ten times cooler than Snapper Carr. I'm jus' sayin'.Bullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11708103213119467419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145946053674181132006-04-25T01:20:00.000-05:002006-04-25T01:20:00.000-05:00I've loved the Falcon since he shared top-billing ...I've loved the Falcon since he shared top-billing with Cap in the Star-Spangled Avenger's book. I wish SOMEBODY would do something decent with the character, although DC hasn't always done right by Bird-Men.Marc Burkhardthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06949686463975572297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145935127129137892006-04-24T22:18:00.000-05:002006-04-24T22:18:00.000-05:00Devon Sanders......made sure his new arrivals were...Devon Sanders...<BR/><BR/>...made sure his new arrivals were delivered one day after 9/11...<BR/><BR/>...defended both Chuck Austen AND Rob Liefeld...<BR/><BR/>...and got Scipio to read a Marvel book.<BR/><BR/>There has to be some sort of award or honor out there for this man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145933814842823902006-04-24T21:56:00.000-05:002006-04-24T21:56:00.000-05:00I agree with des! Not that I hope or even want you...I agree with des! Not that I hope or even want you to accept Marvel into your heart, Scip — god knows I've recently given up on all my Marvel subscriptions after Decimation destroyed everything with needless angst — but I'd love to regularly read this kind of post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145923011288729502006-04-24T18:56:00.000-05:002006-04-24T18:56:00.000-05:00Let's make this a regular column at Absorbascon. N...Let's make this a regular column at Absorbascon. Not only should we covet the beauty that is DC but you should also read a Marvel book once a month and comment on it...please?Deshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11254545092911234284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145912273414186722006-04-24T15:57:00.000-05:002006-04-24T15:57:00.000-05:00See, the thing about the Avengers is that they are...See, the thing about the Avengers is that they aren't Marvel's version of the JLA. They're Marvel's version of the Legion of Superheroes. (Super-hero team focused around the inspiration of a heroic figure from an earlier era, assembled due to the actions of a non-powered guy with initials R.J....)<BR/><BR/>Once you understand that, it all makes sense.<BR/>1) Hank=Querl Dox. [Mentally unstable genius who accidentally created an AI that turned into one of the team's most lethal foes.] And he's the same kind of idiot.<BR/><BR/>3) Vision/Scarlet Witch==Blok/White Witch. But with strange fake babies.<BR/><BR/>11) Technocratic world government with unlimited authority to delegate to the team? Check.Jeff R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00893541435938915895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145911201285767402006-04-24T15:40:00.000-05:002006-04-24T15:40:00.000-05:00I think that the Avengers were avenging the fact t...I think that the Avengers were avenging the fact that they all got pulled into yet some poorly thought out scheme by Loki to attack Thor. So the guy essentially ruined their weekend, and the decided to beat him up and lock him away in a lead vault, which is obviously how you defeat a guy who can use magic. <BR/><BR/>As for the Scott Lang Ant-Man, yeah he was a pretty cool B-lister. So, of course, he was Event Cannon Fodder (see also: Beetle, Blue).Bill D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18013121134005443309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145910175545519242006-04-24T15:22:00.000-05:002006-04-24T15:22:00.000-05:00Not all of Marvel's redeemed heroes are black (Haw...Not all of Marvel's redeemed heroes are black (Hawkeye and Ant-Man were both thieves), and not all black heroes have criminal pasts (Monica Rambeau aka Photon, and Black Panther.)<BR/><BR/>So... I <I>like</I> to think Marvel made Falcon a redeemed criminal not because he's black, but because Marvel seems to have a thing for redeemed characters.<BR/><BR/>Just saying. Because I'm on a "defend Marvel" kick today for some reason.Cantonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02956152287462622500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145909302261280832006-04-24T15:08:00.000-05:002006-04-24T15:08:00.000-05:00Huh. I was wondering what happened to the Vision....Huh. I was wondering what happened to the Vision. (I missed most of Marvel in the Eighties.)<BR/><BR/>He was a great character way-back-when. Served the same heart-of-the-Team function that the Martian Manhunter did in the post-Crisis JLA. <BR/><BR/>(2) I like the Falcon a lot, but, like the Vision, he hasn't been used particularly well since 1976 or there-a-bouts. (The neato Christopher Priest written mini-series being the exception.) Wouldn't mind seeing him go to DC, really. <BR/><BR/>And can we pleasepleasePLEASE get the God-arful "No! He was really a criminal! 'Cause he's, y'know, BLACK!" retcon out of continuity?MarkAndrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16956940483406724174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145907756117220762006-04-24T14:42:00.000-05:002006-04-24T14:42:00.000-05:00In Avengers #1, way back in the '60s, Iron Man, An...In Avengers #1, way back in the '60s, Iron Man, Ant Man 1, Wasp, Thor, & the Hulk had just beaten Loki. Someone suggests they stay together as a team, and the Wasp says they should call themselves "something dramatic, like the Avengers or..." Another character cuts her off and says it's a good name.<BR/><BR/>Yes, Black Panther joined the Avengers to spy on them. I don't know if any of Christopher Priest's excellent run on the book is in continuity anymore.<BR/><BR/>Scipio, I commend you for reading a Marvel book. Too bad it wasn't all that good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145907630156519052006-04-24T14:40:00.000-05:002006-04-24T14:40:00.000-05:001. The Jan/Hank relationship made more sense in t...1. The Jan/Hank relationship made more sense in the 60's, when Jan was a typical Stan Lee written woman - meaning she said stupid things, giggled a lot, and generally had you wondering "Why is she even here?" Once Jan became competent in the 80s, their relationship became more and more silly.<BR/><BR/>2. Ha! Don't forget that Falcon's backstory is that he was a pimp who was artificially turned into a hero by the Red Skull using the cosmic cube - the standard for well-adjusted he is not.<BR/><BR/>3. Meh - Vision used to be more human before John Byrne wrote him. Unlike everyone else that John Byrne has written, however, later writers haven't bothered to fix the damage so much.<BR/><BR/>5. Why do you think Cap wears a chainmail headmask?<BR/><BR/>13. Jack of Hearts exploding problem was solved the way they solve problems in the Marvel Universe - they killed him. No more splodey problem for Jack.<BR/><BR/>14. Good for you. I like Ant Man too (more the Scott Lang version that's in this book than the Hank Pym version anyway). Too bad about what happened to him (see 13)<BR/><BR/>15. The Hulk on a rampage. Rick Jones making an emergency call to the Fantastic Four that got rerouted to a bunch of unconnected heroes. Apparently they're Avenging the Hulk's rampage? Or something? I dunno, I just figured it was a suitably pseudo-fascist name like ALL superteams must have that was just slapped on them by Stan Lee to sell books.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145904541370477492006-04-24T13:49:00.000-05:002006-04-24T13:49:00.000-05:00Captain Qwert Jr. needs to be hired by Marvel, A.S...Captain Qwert Jr. needs to be hired by Marvel, A.S.A.P.<BR/><BR/>3. Using the fact that the Vision's mind was a copy of Wonder Man's, Steve Engelhart set up the character as essentially a human being with prosthetic <I>everything.</I> Which made his marriage to the Scarlet Witch a helluva lot easier to relate to. And then Marvel editors asked John Byrne to ruin things (like they had to <I>request</I> that!) and he was back to a cold, mindless drone for a while. Still, I think the Scarlet Witch <I>and</I> her brother were two perfectly serviceable characters whose storytelling potential got seriously damaged by ill-advised, far-out marriages that either made them come across as slightly mental (SW) or which shuffled them off to remote civilizations and took them off the playing field for long stretches (Quicksilver). It would be like if DC wed Green Arrow to Lori Lemaris.<BR/><BR/>4. Naomi Campbell *IS* Captain America!Jeremy Rizzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08480479249595700846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145899306084387652006-04-24T12:21:00.000-05:002006-04-24T12:21:00.000-05:002. Careful DC fans, once you recognize that a '70'...2. Careful DC fans, once you recognize that a '70's black superhero with a past as a small time criminal is just a great guy and an awesome character, you lose the aura of moral superiority built up from Michael Holt and John Stewart.<BR/><BR/>3. SW, in my truly warped mind has a very bizarre sexual history. She was raised by an overprotective brother who hates humans in an environment of Animal-men, then her abusive terrorist father who hates humans used her as a weapon. Her only physical relationships have been with a robot and an imaginary friend made of energy. The fact is that she's terrified of men.<BR/><BR/>12. I prefer to think that Iron Man is only trying to play the victim in order to build up credit in some future transaction with BP.<BR/><BR/>13. Jack of Hearts is one of those inherently cool designs that any character you stick onto it will work.<BR/><BR/>15. Sure, but what's the Justice Society? Is that like the Heritage Foundation? Do they organize Justice Bake Sales?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145892484331836252006-04-24T10:28:00.000-05:002006-04-24T10:28:00.000-05:00anonymous: no, the Scorpio plot was never revisted...anonymous: no, the Scorpio plot was never revisted.<BR/><BR/>1. Wasp keeps getting with hank because the writers seem to feel this plot must be constantly rehashed. They're wrong about that, of course.<BR/><BR/>2,13,14. Scipio I would never allow you to take Ant-Man, Falcon or Jack of Hearts. You can, however, have Hank Pym, the Wasp, and the Scarlet Witch, per our discussion back in December regarding character donations.<BR/><BR/>13. And if Jack of Hearts did wear this suit you suggest, and then got in a fight at the mall (which would totally happen), he have to remove the suit, and he'd blow up, killing everyone.<BR/><BR/>7. No. Amanda Waller is not required. Mostly because I don't think Thor or Cap are likely to tolerate her bull any more than they are Gyrich's.<BR/><BR/>12. Because at some point Black Panther was pulling a Batman and working with the Avengers strictly for the purpose of colecting info on them, so he could defend his country against any attacks from them. Except, I'm pretty sure he did it first.<BR/><BR/>5. Captain America has pefected his walk so that when the shield is on his back, he doesn't bump his head against it.<BR/><BR/>10. Mallet hit it on the head, regarding Namor. It's just how he is, and he's powerful enough, you can't outright laugh in his fae about it, lest he rip your arms off.CalvinPitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11815632086057048846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145891549227667352006-04-24T10:12:00.000-05:002006-04-24T10:12:00.000-05:00Welcome, Chris, and welcome back to comics!Welcome, Chris, and welcome back to comics!Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1145889415809425302006-04-24T09:36:00.000-05:002006-04-24T09:36:00.000-05:00The silliest thing about this story is that it fol...The silliest thing about this story is that it followed on a massive world war against Kang the Conqueror in which most of the population of DC was annihilated by a weapon of mass destruction and significant portions of the world were left devastated. <BR/><BR/>Consequences of said conflict that carry over into this story? Almost none. <BR/><BR/>I stopped reading Avengers not long after "World Trust" (except for briefly checking out the utterly odious Bendis Disassembled): was the Zodiac subplot that pops up at the end, e.g., the "we're just testing the Avengers" ever taken any further?<BR/><BR/>Busiek's run on the Avengers was good; so was the Heroes-Return Perez reboot of it before that, great run of issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com