tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post111672437465916836..comments2024-03-27T19:04:14.544-05:00Comments on The Absorbascon: Where's the REAL Penguin?Scipiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-79466472640998667832013-01-26T23:19:38.204-05:002013-01-26T23:19:38.204-05:00A bit of a history lesson (that's probably unn...A bit of a history lesson (that's probably unnecessary for the author, but there might be newbies reading this): the whole Iceberg Lounge thing was invented by Chuck Dixon during the 90s (shortly after Knightfall wrapped up, come to think of it). In its premiere story, it was pretty clear that Batman wanted to bust the Penguin, but couldn't on account of lack of evidence.<br /><br />Now, it's pretty much become: "Batman can bust Penguin whenever the hell he wants, but doesn't because he's got REAL villains to catch".<br /><br />The little guy deserves better. Not to go all Grant Morrison-y on you guys, but I think that he's the perfect reflection of just how ridiculous the concept of Batman is. Moreso than even the Joker.springhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09178014930194863581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1149974920070441632006-06-10T16:28:00.000-05:002006-06-10T16:28:00.000-05:00Though Penguin was "the head" of United Underworld...Though Penguin was "the head" of United Underworld and Catwoman held them together, Riddler came up with all the plans (don't cite me on this because I own the movie. Yes, I am the last person on Earth with a VCR). Dosn't that count for something? By the way, Killer Moth would have rocked in that movie, had they given him the same costume he had in the comics and had him portrayed by a decent actor. Tim Herbert indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1128925654394058082005-10-10T01:27:00.000-05:002005-10-10T01:27:00.000-05:00Plus, the Penguin is about the only one of Batman'...Plus, the Penguin is about the only one of Batman's Rogues Gallery who isn't a living manifestation of the dichotomy of the human personality. Or something.thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1128781260135374442005-10-08T09:21:00.000-05:002005-10-08T09:21:00.000-05:00Maybe Zatanna and the JLA got to the Penguin, maki...Maybe Zatanna and the JLA got to the Penguin, making him the lovable buffoon we all know today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1128713854275276022005-10-07T14:37:00.000-05:002005-10-07T14:37:00.000-05:00Personally, I enjoyed the version in The Animated ...Personally, I enjoyed the version in The Animated Series (the good one, not the current one), where he was the Legitimate Businessman that Batman couldn't quite get enough on to keep in jail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1128692716864875312005-10-07T08:45:00.000-05:002005-10-07T08:45:00.000-05:00If it was the original Penguin then he would be ma...If it was the original Penguin then he would be manipulating the information Batman is getting from him for his benefit.Hate Filled Posterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00965492342916144479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1128686195366553592005-10-07T06:56:00.000-05:002005-10-07T06:56:00.000-05:00Penguin's Batman's stoolie now? Ugh. I haven't rea...Penguin's Batman's stoolie now? Ugh. I haven't read much Batman in the last three years. How long has this been going on.<BR/><BR/>To rectify the situation: Penguin sets Batman up. Batman gets schooled by [insert subject of set-up here]. He is humiliated in public. Has anyone used the Penguin in this manner?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1128662726798524792005-10-07T00:25:00.000-05:002005-10-07T00:25:00.000-05:00I remember reading a comic way back when that reto...I remember reading a comic way back when that retold Penguin's origin which had him shoot the guy point blank <I>in the face</I>. That's always been how I think of the Penguin; as a ruthless bastard.Captain Infinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02043927506160341160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1128643027782723162005-10-06T18:57:00.000-05:002005-10-06T18:57:00.000-05:00"Does someone at DC have a sexual fetish for seein..."Does someone at DC have a sexual fetish for seeing formally-dressed fat men with big noses get the snot beat out of them?"<BR/><BR/>Oh thank God! I'm not alone! (sob) I knew there were other Penguisexuals out there. Now I can be out and proud!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1128633352655957772005-10-06T16:15:00.001-05:002005-10-06T16:15:00.001-05:00Even in the '60s show, they understood this. Remem...<I>Even in the '60s show, they understood this. Remember the movie? Who was in charge of the United Underworld? Why, the Penguin, of course. It went without saying.</I><BR/><BR/>I think it was fairly obvious in the movie that, even though the Penguin supplied the manpower and submarine, Catwoman was obviously the leader. Without her, the other three would have killed each other.<BR/><BR/>No where's THAT version of Catwoman! We need her being the boss of the Joker!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1128633352402987452005-10-06T16:15:00.000-05:002005-10-06T16:15:00.000-05:00Thta would be the way to do it. Make the Penguin t...Thta would be the way to do it. Make the Penguin the ultra-manipulator, the criminal Batman, essentially.<BR/><BR/>I don't read much Batman stuff, but yeah, you can't just slap the guy around all the time. It's just silly. If any of the Gallery should find out Batman's identity, it should be the Penguin. Then we might see some <B>Born Again</B> style antics.thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1128626369146395992005-10-06T14:19:00.000-05:002005-10-06T14:19:00.000-05:00Actually, a schmuck like Black Mask is exactly the...Actually, a schmuck like Black Mask is exactly the sort of front man the Penguin ought to have running his mob.<BR/><BR/>And nobody, not even the World's Greatest Detective (at least not without a lot of luck) should be able to actually <I>prove</I> that, no matter what shmuck gets set up for the Batman to knock down, the money going through the Gotham mob always winds up lining his feathers...<BR/><BR/>Yeah, this whole 'Penguin as Batman's information source' business has to end, soonest.Jeff R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00893541435938915895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-1128624800313380852005-10-06T13:53:00.000-05:002005-10-06T13:53:00.000-05:00Calling for the original version of a character to...Calling for the original version of a character to be the "real one" would make for a dubious precedent in comic books, and one that I doubt you're actually advocating here, unless you're actually prepared to toss out the Silver Age on principle.<BR/><BR/>At any rate, I don't see THAT much of a distinction between the refined, articulate, cold-blooded killer of the Finger/Kane comics and the refined, articulate, cold-blooded master criminal of modern times. The latter may wear top hats <EM>slightly</EM> less often, goes by his given name more than his pseudonym, and has mastered the loopholes and flaws of the criminal justice system to ensconse himself as a nominally legitimate figure while ruling a criminal empire; that he's no physical heavyweight hardly detracts from his menace. More to the point, the precise nature of his menace remains intact: he is the elite criminal, the connoisseur who is driven to hold himself above the rest of the underworld refuse. In fact, the modern interpretation refines this point further: why should the Penguin be a fighter? He has little people to do that for him.<BR/><BR/>The biggest slight to the Penguin in modern times hasn't been intrinsic to the character, but has been the various Bat-writers' refusal to do anything with him. Oswald Cobblepot should be running the Gotham mob, not a schmuck like Black Mask.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com