tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post8143206727571155022..comments2024-03-27T19:04:14.544-05:00Comments on The Absorbascon: The Martian Manhunter (for those who have ever been laid)Scipiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-40544715003248917642014-05-30T20:46:48.210-05:002014-05-30T20:46:48.210-05:00What Goyer Oh-Boyer might have been trying to say,...What Goyer Oh-Boyer might have been trying to say, in his own vulgar and unappreciative-of-his-own-customers way, is that the name "Martian Manhunter" sounds goofy.<br /><br />So stipulated. But really, what super-hero name <i>doesn't,</i> in a cold reading? Superman. Spider-Man. Wonder Woman. Captain Marvel. The Flash. I can go on and on.<br /><br />Sure, the name and concept of the Martian Manhunter may be hopelessly outdated, relics of an era when UFOs and "little green men" were everywhere. The name and concept of "Captain America" are hopelessly outdated relics of a time when our country was fighting a World War and just about everyone was behind it, doing their part in one way or another. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10586436696772038834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-20483210244418036162014-05-29T14:14:24.164-05:002014-05-29T14:14:24.164-05:00Well put, Murray.Well put, Murray.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-17420543566949405812014-05-29T13:02:44.742-05:002014-05-29T13:02:44.742-05:00I haven't a sniff of an idea who "David G...I haven't a sniff of an idea who "David Goyer" might be, and based on this example of his mental might and humour, I'm not even curious enough to Google him. <br /><br />On to important matters: I can do little but chime in on the tone of reducing MM to "only the stuff Superman cannot do". Telepathy, shapeshifting and shapeshifting with spectacular camouflage instead of actual invisibility. That's about it. The power set of a "man hunter", instead of a "day saver". Murrayhttp://www.murraylindsay.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-26678018364379764672014-05-29T08:58:16.887-05:002014-05-29T08:58:16.887-05:00Unfortunately, Frank, DC writers seems addicted to...Unfortunately, Frank, DC writers seems addicted to portraying MM as an uberpowerful one-man Justice League. <br /><br />Which, of course, makes him impossible to use.<br /><br />Even the Justice League cartoons, which generally did a good job with him, had to start inventing reasons for keeping him out of the fight. Usually, leaving him at the satellite 'to coordinate' because he is, um, 'the League's tactician'.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-85590596650050315022014-05-29T03:05:56.503-05:002014-05-29T03:05:56.503-05:00Nathan, I stumbled upon a second story in Showcase...Nathan, I stumbled upon a second story in Showcase with a non-Hugo reference to Mmm-mmm-town a few weeks back, but that's a whole other thing than Goyer's nerd-shaming.<br /><br />I keep being reminded that <i>Smallville</i> did a great job with John Jones, and if <i>Smallville</i> can do it, anyone can. Every word in "alien homicide detective" is awesome. You can even play with it by investigating homicides committed by or against aliens, and you're just adding peanut butter to chocolate. John Jones in the Silver Age was basically Kyle MacLachlan as FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper, and John Jones in the Iron Age was basically Kyle MacLachlan as FBI Special Agent Lloyd Gallagher. How can anyone deny the manifestly sublime?Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-40436734282905028172014-05-28T20:08:18.077-05:002014-05-28T20:08:18.077-05:00"But the only thing that's really needed ..."But the only thing that's really needed to fix J'onn's origin is to make him less powerful. Reduce his power set and levels, make his abilities most a function of his mind, limiting how much energy he has to use powers, not letting him do more than one thing at a time, like a modern day Ultra-Boy."<br /><br />Bingo. My personal thought is, make him mostly a shape-shifter who's somewhat more powerful than normal humans, frame him as more of an undercover detective with superheroic leanings than the other way 'round, and you've got someone who is a good fit for Green Arrow, Aquaman, and the other B-Listers who have roots but can't compete with the Justice League.<br /><br />Here's what I've got so far: Aquaman as the powerhouse, Martian Manhunter as the sneaky guy / chessmaster, Green Arrow as the bag of tricks, Black Canary as the ass-kicker; I'm not sure whom they would fight month after month, but maybe Suicide Squad fans would have some ideas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-70344832101736389382014-05-28T19:23:38.248-05:002014-05-28T19:23:38.248-05:00Hi Diabolu - apparently you didn't know where ...Hi Diabolu - apparently you didn't know where you were, or you wouldn't have said the "M" word here. <br />http://absorbascon.blogspot.com/2009/06/vol-2.htmlNathan Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05477802465452451455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-79960231399301950042014-05-28T17:41:20.631-05:002014-05-28T17:41:20.631-05:00Two corrections, and then I can mostly stand behin...Two corrections, and then I can mostly stand behind you.<br /><br />1) Middletown.<br /><br />2) Literally the very first thing J'onn J'onzz does upon arriving on Earth is read Professor Erdel's mind. That's probably why the power came back after being absent for the entirety of Jack Miller's run-- '70s reprints of the origin story.Diabolu Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685199809207954223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-43322489020574283342014-05-28T15:23:25.540-05:002014-05-28T15:23:25.540-05:00Well, hell.
Too many typos for one day....
*sli...Well, hell. <br /><br />Too many typos for one day....<br /><br />*slinks away in shame*CobraMisfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08076556754472094027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-88377572021408637302014-05-28T15:19:38.356-05:002014-05-28T15:19:38.356-05:00Good point about the She-Hulk comments, Sally. Tha...Good point about the She-Hulk comments, Sally. That was out of left field. <br /><br />Maybe he has a crude sense of humor (which would explain a lot), but still...snark at the expense of fans and characters stings those of us who kinda' like the characters in comics. And the folks who read read them.<br /><br />Oh, and Scip, it'd be a real shame if he's become a self-loathing professional. Especially when there are so many out there who had a passion for comics. <br /><br />Then again, as was pointed out in one artivle, he might just REALLY hate the color green....CobraMisfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08076556754472094027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-85548006288085729622014-05-28T15:11:10.534-05:002014-05-28T15:11:10.534-05:00Perhaps he has/had aspiration toward 'higher w...Perhaps he has/had aspiration toward 'higher writing' and thus has become a self-hating comic book writer, resenting what he does for a living. This happens.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-58852588500909486662014-05-28T14:57:24.086-05:002014-05-28T14:57:24.086-05:00Then there are the comments that he made about She...Then there are the comments that he made about She-Hulk. He doesn't really seem to care all that much for the Super Hero genre...does he?SallyPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592635194271250605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-16971006662139155882014-05-28T14:32:33.572-05:002014-05-28T14:32:33.572-05:00"Apex City, America's Most Flammable Vaca..."Apex City, America's Most Flammable Vacation Spot"<br /><br />Quote Booked. <br /><br />But, yes, it seems odd that Goyer would take a shot at his own customer base. That said, the reboot is still relatively fresh, to retconning J'onn for more "reasonable" powers should be fairly easy. <br /><br />But yeah, I'd love a MM series with him simply being the most normal thing in Apex City. <br />CobraMisfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08076556754472094027noreply@blogger.com