tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post7445076514041819463..comments2024-03-27T19:04:14.544-05:00Comments on The Absorbascon: Home Is Where The Heart WasScipiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-33623405097316364812022-12-01T22:19:00.782-05:002022-12-01T22:19:00.782-05:00"You don't really HAVE arguments to overc..."You don't really HAVE arguments to overcome, you just regurgitate whatever DC's shoved down your throat."<br /><br />Yeah. That's <b>definitely</b> how my blog reads.<br />Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-65309977685987436822007-11-02T16:05:00.000-05:002007-11-02T16:05:00.000-05:00I think it's funny, as a figure collector, that DC...I think it's funny, as a figure collector, that DC Direct FINALLY got around to doing some kickass New Gods figures based of the art designs of Jack Kirby (coming April 2008), and they're somehow killing off the characters we know and love. HUH???Rev. O.J. Flowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10721915972231684829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-33191212530032497692007-11-02T10:46:00.000-05:002007-11-02T10:46:00.000-05:00DC recently announced the 5th World relaunch of th...DC recently announced the 5th World relaunch of the New Gods.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01384704962533330288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-55991851084635662632007-10-31T23:44:00.000-05:002007-10-31T23:44:00.000-05:00"I hope it doesn't completely undercut my argument..."I hope it doesn't completely undercut my argument!"<BR/><BR/>You don't really HAVE arguments to overcome, you just regurgitate whatever DC's shoved down your throat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-18977970613054665532007-10-30T14:40:00.000-05:002007-10-30T14:40:00.000-05:00Thanks Scipio. I have been a huge Barda fan from ...Thanks Scipio. I have been a huge Barda fan from the time she first appeared. I am upset that she got killed off so cavalierly but your post let me reconsider it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-34536895702476059842007-10-29T11:24:00.000-05:002007-10-29T11:24:00.000-05:00"More than that, Barda! Living, or dead...you and..."More than that, Barda! Living, or dead...you and I are proof to all of Apokolips...that it can fall!!"<BR/>Scott Free, Mister Miracle #7, series one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-24142549346275364142007-10-29T07:42:00.000-05:002007-10-29T07:42:00.000-05:00"Or how little DiDio actually has to do with reima..."Or how little DiDio actually has to do with reimagining anything. That's like blaming the General Manager for the Coaches decisions."<BR/><BR/>Bad analogy. Instead, it would be like blaming the General Manager for personnel decisions. Oh wait, that's his job.<BR/><BR/>Do you seriously believe that characters can be revamped or killed WITHOUT Didio's say-so?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-55362204008380452212007-10-28T11:55:00.000-05:002007-10-28T11:55:00.000-05:00King Andy; I am so VERY wrong in that; thanks for ...King Andy; I am so VERY wrong in that; thanks for correcting me. I was obviously allowing my past understanding of Barda to color my memory. I hope it doesn't completely undercut my argument!<BR/><BR/>As for her dying off-panel... I see the point, but isn't that how most of the New Gods are dying?Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-88587510251058845622007-10-28T10:20:00.000-05:002007-10-28T10:20:00.000-05:00You make some good points, but it still bugs me qu...You make some good points, but it still bugs me quite a bit that she died off-panel. Seems like she deserved more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-51037053720219043972007-10-28T10:06:00.000-05:002007-10-28T10:06:00.000-05:00"Barda was concerned about getting home to prepare..."Barda was concerned about getting home to prepare for their guests but Scott was focused on doing some crimestopping."<BR/><BR/>Just for the record - according to these scans it's Barda objecting to the burglars and Scott who wants to get home for dinner: http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/4316619.html?#cutid1JoeMontaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02488502085668723051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-76574509860450215252007-10-28T08:47:00.000-05:002007-10-28T08:47:00.000-05:00I couldn't agree with you more, Scip. Suedenim too...I couldn't agree with you more, Scip. Suedenim too. And I loved Barda a lot more than these 11th hour sycophants did.<BR/><BR/>I find people who are most critical of writer's decisions often don't understand writing.<BR/><BR/>Or how little DiDio actually has to do with reimagining anything. That's like blaming the General Manager for the Coaches decisions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-89739590258655853902007-10-27T23:38:00.000-05:002007-10-27T23:38:00.000-05:00Interesting. So, you think they are going to be r...Interesting. So, you think they are going to be re-imagined, with new bodies/looks? Hm.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-4970417224381011242007-10-27T21:52:00.000-05:002007-10-27T21:52:00.000-05:00Didio killing off Kirby creations is just par for ...Didio killing off Kirby creations is just par for his course. He might as well kill them off, because he'd just end up replacing them anyway.<BR/><BR/>Get ready for phase two: the Return of Big Barda! This time, it's a black, lesbian, legally-blind paraplegic who receives godhood after years of being a penpal with Granny Goodness... (Based on Didio's track record, of course.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-68433859069607524952007-10-27T15:55:00.000-05:002007-10-27T15:55:00.000-05:00LOL, that's one theory, John!LOL, that's one theory, John!Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-30943916468778807732007-10-27T15:13:00.000-05:002007-10-27T15:13:00.000-05:00You obviously hate women.You obviously hate women.JohnFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09339402431610031589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-22818965681998537212007-10-26T22:16:00.000-05:002007-10-26T22:16:00.000-05:00My main regret about Barda's death is that Kirby m...My main regret about Barda's death is that Kirby modeled the Frees' relationship after his own long-lived marriage.<BR/><BR/>It represented a piece of Kirby's life, immortalized in comics form.<BR/><BR/>So, to hear she was katma-ed in the kitchen kinda sucked, but that's the way it goes in a work-for-hire universe.<BR/><BR/>No wonder few creators bother to come up with new characters these days.Marc Burkhardthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06949686463975572297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-35978299881807826822007-10-26T21:14:00.000-05:002007-10-26T21:14:00.000-05:00Maybe no one else will use the Seven Soldiers stuf...Maybe no one else will use the Seven Soldiers stuff-- but I presume that Death/ NG is leading right into Final Crisis, which Morrison himself is writing, so I'd bet on the 7S rules still being relevant.Jacob T. Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02575549001627195334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-4652601865133600642007-10-26T21:06:00.000-05:002007-10-26T21:06:00.000-05:00Well, Barda looks like she was holding her Mega Ro...Well, Barda looks like she was holding her Mega Rod, so presumably she at least sensed that someone was there and was turning to fight them when she was killed.<BR/><BR/>That or she took mashing potatoes incredibly seriously.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03987383774108570495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-43059084836565511862007-10-26T20:44:00.000-05:002007-10-26T20:44:00.000-05:00Broadly speaking, I think the point of the "New Go...Broadly speaking, I think the point of the "New Gods Killer" is that he/she/they can kill people like Barda and Knockout that easily. I.e., the staging is meant not to make the "killer" look scary, not to lower the status of the victims.<BR/><BR/>(My suspicion, by the way, is that nobody's *actually* dying, and that something along the lines of Derek's suggestion is happening.)<BR/><BR/>All that aside, Scipio has a typically great evaluation of Barda here. In a way, Barda's true victory over her Apokoliptian upbringing, the real revenge against Darkseid and Granny Goodness, would be not to defeat them in battle, but to have a happy, quiet, loving home with her husband, a bunch of kids and puppies and kitties and bunny slippers. THAT is the sort of thing Darkseid can't even comprehend, much less defeat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-80278909620651483352007-10-26T20:20:00.000-05:002007-10-26T20:20:00.000-05:00I wasn't really offended with Barda dying in the k...I wasn't really offended with Barda dying in the kitchen...didn't even occur to me. People die in all manner of unexpected ways and places, and very few of them get to chose those circumstances. Ted Kord certainly didn't. I wouldn't say that his death was any more heroic than Barda's, but it probably is more permanent. Comic-book wise, at least. <BR/><BR/> Barda may have chosen to go another way, in battle, but that's not this story. I'll reserve judgement for a few more issues, till we see where this is really going. I agree that this probably isn't the end of the New Gods story, and somewhere along the way we will see a "5th World" series.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-28388292575422812672007-10-26T19:19:00.000-05:002007-10-26T19:19:00.000-05:00to jon hex,which earth are we on? thanksto jon hex,<BR/><BR/>which earth are we on? <BR/><BR/>thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-45111080580614773322007-10-26T18:43:00.000-05:002007-10-26T18:43:00.000-05:00Oh, okay. Thanks, Jon.Oh, okay. Thanks, Jon.Derekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14326906935557548236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-14338322214951478912007-10-26T18:09:00.000-05:002007-10-26T18:09:00.000-05:00-derekThe main one is called New Earth, no number....-derek<BR/>The main one is called New Earth, no number.Jon Hexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13599387638866026637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-56922299734758228592007-10-26T15:09:00.000-05:002007-10-26T15:09:00.000-05:00I must be reading the comics wrong, or something. ...I must be reading the comics wrong, or something. Because so far, from what I've read, every New God that died did so rather pathetically.<BR/><BR/>Except Knockout, I guess. She got a few snippets of dialogue before she was effortlessly killed off panel. Was her death "just to piss off" Scandal Savage?<BR/><BR/>I'm thinking this is all leading up to the New Gods merging with the Source Wall and being able to exist in all universes at once. That way, the main DCU won't be unduly warped by the presence of overpowered Kirby creations, and Barda and Scott can choose to remain on Earth-52 (that's the main one, right? Or is it Earth-1?)Derekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14326906935557548236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-2204741080010942552007-10-26T14:21:00.000-05:002007-10-26T14:21:00.000-05:00It's possible to honor Barda's fondness for her ho...It's possible to honor Barda's fondness for her home without dumping her body in the kitchen without a fight, just to piss Scott Free off. True, it could have been worse, past writers have had her mind controlled into doing porn movies, so Tigra'ing her wouldn't have been a surprise, but "less lame than it could have been" is not really an endorsement.<BR/><BR/>However, I can't in general bring myself to care much, because Death of the New Gods is such a pit of stupid. Either the deaths mean nothing because it's all a pretense prior to them coming back in January, or they trashed an entire line of Kirby characters because they were too dim to do anything interesting with them.tavellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02850891086706939932noreply@blogger.com