tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post3617992168539536250..comments2024-02-21T12:40:49.323-05:00Comments on The Absorbascon: Argonauts of...JUSTICE!Scipiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-4648515335528639702022-10-30T22:28:36.242-05:002022-10-30T22:28:36.242-05:00"Hylas was Herakles's cousin?"
He wa..."Hylas was Herakles's cousin?"<br />He was not; I misspoke. I momentarily confused him with Iolaus, who was Herkales cousin and companion/lover on the Twelve Labors.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-11339567996361716312022-10-30T22:23:09.068-05:002022-10-30T22:23:09.068-05:00"That was a long way to go for a Geo-Force jo..."That was a long way to go for a Geo-Force joke."<br /><br />NO length is too far to disrespect Geo-Force.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-67873675499330072122008-01-26T10:24:00.000-05:002008-01-26T10:24:00.000-05:00Atalanta WAS a character - - in the Pantheon in th...Atalanta WAS a character - - in the Pantheon in the Incredible Hulk.John Chidley-Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01557793842528552453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-76490031859760018052008-01-26T00:18:00.000-05:002008-01-26T00:18:00.000-05:00I always thought Atalanta would make an interestin...I always thought Atalanta would make an interesting superhero-superspeed, bow and arrow, ability to turn into a lion (but only after getting it on in a temple).Hale of Angelthornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15657027427170709519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-71959683245356189542008-01-24T01:33:00.000-05:002008-01-24T01:33:00.000-05:00Geo-Force? BA-zing!Geo-Force? BA-zing!John Chidley-Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01557793842528552453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-58648724840014970542008-01-23T15:53:00.000-05:002008-01-23T15:53:00.000-05:00Higgledy-piggledy,Scipio Garling...God damn it.Higgledy-piggledy,<BR/>Scipio Garling<BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>God damn it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-30433037122724347452008-01-23T13:14:00.000-05:002008-01-23T13:14:00.000-05:00Apollonius wasn't that bad, but his is one of the ...Apollonius wasn't <B>that</B> bad, but his is one of the few epics of his era, and epic poetry is unavoidably compared to the original master, Homer.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and dactylic hexameter isn't <B>that</B> hard, as long as you're writing in Greek (or Latin). English is just ill-suited for it; just ask Longfellow.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-80214572837138696232008-01-23T11:58:00.000-05:002008-01-23T11:58:00.000-05:00Well, yes and no. :-) They may not have been origi...Well, yes and no. :-) They may not have been <I>originally</I> intended to be "highbrow" entertainment, but they became that way even in ancient Greece due to the transcriptions being commissioned by (probably) a few Greek aristocrats (because that's who generally called for transcriptions in ancient times). Homer (assuming he really existed) didn't actually "write" the Illiad and Odyssey -- he's given credit for creating how the stories are layed out and presented (those stories were ancient before Homer was even born), but they were actually written down by someone else. Originally they were relayed to audiences in verbal form or performance. When they were first written down, they then became the "property" of the aristocracy and remained that way for centuries. Most people in ancient Greece and Rome couldn't read, unless they were upperclass or had ties with a scholar or religious sect, and "books" during that era were usually either handwritten scrolls or waxed tablets. Only scholars, priests, and rich people had access to books, so the stories essentially became the property of the upper class even in ancient times. The nonwritten form, on the other hand, probably continued to be performed and probably, eventually evolved into stories that we wouldn't even recognize today -- but either no one ever bothered to transcribe the "continued" form, or it's become lost.<BR/>Homer is credited with popularizing the epic poetry form known as dactylic hexameter -- and it's NOT easy to write in that form, trust me. :-) It's an ingenius form of writing -- easy on the ears and on audiences, but VERY difficult to write.Sea-of-Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813600516703661200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-5465876632309285432008-01-23T10:23:00.000-05:002008-01-23T10:23:00.000-05:00"Now THIS is the kind of essay that I use to confo...<I>"Now THIS is the kind of essay that I use to confound the sort of people who say that comics rot your brains. This is brilliant! It has analogies, and Green Mythology, and...and stuff!"</I><BR/><BR/>The Iliad and the Odyssey were not crafted to be highbrow literature; they were the equivalent of action movies in the day. Well-written action movies, perhaps, but they were entertainment for anyone who didn't have anything better to do at night. Of course, these days Joe Lunchbox doesn't speak ancient Greek, so Classical lowbrow entertainment is now considered an upper-crust experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-69651381491309163782008-01-23T10:22:00.000-05:002008-01-23T10:22:00.000-05:00Sounds like Argus could also be Steel, who I alway...Sounds like Argus could also be Steel, who I always think of as the DCU's go-to guy for inventions and gadgets. Mr. Terrific has mad skills in those areas (and most others), of course, but I always think of him as more of a strategist and thinker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-90426882574594802182008-01-23T09:45:00.000-05:002008-01-23T09:45:00.000-05:00"I thought Argus was the guy who had eyes all over..."I thought Argus was the guy who had eyes all over his body and could see for miles. No?"<BR/><BR/>Different Argus. Neither of whom should be confused with Ulysses' dog... .Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-43268463766324953132008-01-23T09:34:00.000-05:002008-01-23T09:34:00.000-05:00Now THIS is the kind of essay that I use to confou...Now THIS is the kind of essay that I use to confound the sort of people who say that comics rot your brains. This is brilliant! It has analogies, and Green Mythology, and...and stuff!<BR/><BR/>And Hylas as Kyle just cracks me up.SallyPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592635194271250605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-32067383508212087942008-01-23T09:15:00.000-05:002008-01-23T09:15:00.000-05:00I thought Argus was the guy who had eyes all over ...I thought Argus was the guy who had eyes all over his body and could see for miles. No?<BR/><BR/>Anyway, it's because of stuff like this that I always wanted DC to do more with the Olympian.Matthew Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01007497367844755093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-64996036556256516032008-01-23T09:05:00.000-05:002008-01-23T09:05:00.000-05:00Kudos to anyone who reads the actual Argonautica b...Kudos to anyone who reads the actual <I>Argonautica</I> by Apollonius of Rhodes! It isn't an easy read by modern standards, and it wasn't an easy read by ancient standards, either. In fact, there are surviving literary critiques from ancient Rome in which the reviewers pretty much called Apollonius a hack. :-) (But then, to many ancient Greek and Romans, anyone who didn't write like <I>Homer</I> did was considered a hack.)<BR/><BR/>Atalanta was also known to be a very fast runner. She could stand in for the Flash as well.Sea-of-Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813600516703661200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-73612384337585779312008-01-23T06:20:00.000-05:002008-01-23T06:20:00.000-05:00The is also a Canadian Football League team called...The is also a Canadian Football League team called the Argonauts. Are you sure you aren't going to see them?running42khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11801790773966257216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-56643093380524196462008-01-23T00:15:00.000-05:002008-01-23T00:15:00.000-05:00Frankly Tristan, I thought it was just the right a...Frankly Tristan, I thought it was just the right amount of buildup.<BR/>For me the only Argonauts are Toronto's football team or Don Chaffey's movie. I love my Harryhausen.Michael Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01455879088769484151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-51535402587068704652008-01-22T23:23:00.000-05:002008-01-22T23:23:00.000-05:00Hylas was Herakles's cousin? I thought he was mor...Hylas was Herakles's cousin? I thought he was more like his ward, won in battle or something. Sheesh, did these guys <I>always</I> have to combine incest with their pederasty?!<BR/><BR/>And if Atalanta (home of the Baraves, not to be confused with Euphemus's home of Atalant<B>is</B>) was the only woman, what does that make Medea? Poor Zatanna...Marcoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00170588816722651862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-82361386749395328052008-01-22T22:56:00.000-05:002008-01-22T22:56:00.000-05:00I would have picked Jean Loring to be Medea's coun...I would have picked Jean Loring to be Medea's counterpart.<BR/><BR/>Verification word Xjiouzo: What they served at Jason and Medea's wedding.<BR/><BR/>From Mikelibrarian. When I tried signing on as an aol person it asked me for my password. Missing an opportunity to slam Jean Loring or Medea is not wortth the aggravation.<BR/><BR/>http://www.improvresourcecenter.com/mb/showthread.php?t=38065Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-60379881638701565642008-01-22T22:17:00.000-05:002008-01-22T22:17:00.000-05:00I'll be curious what you think of it. I saw the p...I'll be curious what you think of it. I saw the play in Berkeley a few months ago and liked it a lot for the most part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-4597769176598069332008-01-22T21:01:00.000-05:002008-01-22T21:01:00.000-05:00Isn't that rather harsh on poor Zatanna?Isn't that rather harsh on poor Zatanna?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-80586582452307276332008-01-22T20:13:00.000-05:002008-01-22T20:13:00.000-05:00That was a long way to go for a Geo-Force joke.That was a long way to go for a Geo-Force joke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-75007272158249146432008-01-22T18:00:00.000-05:002008-01-22T18:00:00.000-05:00"Odysseus was the Smart One. Oh, sure, he could fi...<I>"Odysseus was the Smart One. Oh, sure, he could fight, but he preferred to use his wiles and wits. He also had a really popular stand alone book of his own, where he fought lots of bizarre enemies. For Odysseus, picture BATMAN."</I><BR/><BR/>Totally agreed. I have said it many times (and astonished and bored people near and far): the only reason Homer had Odysseus's adventures take place at sea is because it never occurred to him to dress him up as a bat and have him beat up suitors in the alleys of Ithaca.<BR/><BR/>Also: George Clooney played both a watered-down Odysseus ("O Brother Where Art Thou?") and a watered-down Batman ("Batman and Robin"). Draw your own conclusions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com