tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post2476056999593765814..comments2024-03-27T19:04:14.544-05:00Comments on The Absorbascon: Go West: The Revisionists/Weird WesternsScipiohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-90419612457022996232022-06-01T08:18:31.475-05:002022-06-01T08:18:31.475-05:00" there is a special place in heaven for peop..." there is a special place in heaven for people who bother to fact-check."<br /><br />I'd be happy if there were just a special place on the internet!Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-5230379536347987742022-06-01T08:16:42.190-05:002022-06-01T08:16:42.190-05:00Appreciate you doing the fact-checking on Apache C...Appreciate you doing the fact-checking on Apache Chief; there is a special place in heaven for people who bother to fact-check.<br /><br />I was getting into comics about 1978 or 1979, so Brian Savage was a long-time fixture in comics, I'd assumed. I'd assumed wrong!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-10140416311016639602022-05-31T17:09:13.675-05:002022-05-31T17:09:13.675-05:00"1878 Arizona". Have you read today'..."1878 Arizona". Have you read today's post yet...?Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-3272857290802412152022-05-31T14:06:31.187-05:002022-05-31T14:06:31.187-05:00Bat Lash got by on guest shots/team-ups, and the o...Bat Lash got by on guest shots/team-ups, and the occasional backup story, in JONAH HEX and WEIRD WESTERN TALES. <br />Shortly after WWT died in 1981, Gerry Conway wrote Jonah, Bat, and Brian, along with feisty female gunfighter Cinnamon(a casualty of the 'DC Implosion' into a two-parter in JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #s 198-199, featuring 4 Leaguers trapped in 1878 Arizona, with amnesia, pursued by cowboy robots, at the behest of recurring JLA villain the Lord of Time. The real westerners took out the robots, as our heroes got their memories back in time to savw the Earth from a premature ending.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-15980797642499962212022-05-31T12:58:52.334-05:002022-05-31T12:58:52.334-05:00Despite your brutal takedown of Bat Lash, I'm ...Despite your brutal takedown of Bat Lash, I'm really enjoying your focus on DC's Western heroes. I'm a big fan of Western movies and fiction, and I wish the comics would do more with this genre than they are currently doing. Do you remember that Brian Savage was retconned at the father of Steve Savage, the Balloon Buster? (Hey, maybe you'll do something similar with DC's war heroes!)Steve Mitchellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-76807569173065402752022-05-30T19:00:07.872-05:002022-05-30T19:00:07.872-05:00Anon. It's an interesting theory. But Scalphun...Anon. It's an interesting theory. But Scalphunter appeared only scene only a couple of months early than Apache Chief did (in 1977), and given the necessary lead times for the cartoon creation process, it's pretty unlikely.Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-29745090239609431492022-05-30T18:47:29.064-05:002022-05-30T18:47:29.064-05:00Good to hear from you again, Mike.
I read ALL sev...Good to hear from you again, Mike.<br /><br />I read ALL seven issues the night before that post, just in case anyone objected that I was misinformed about Bat Lash. I wasn't. :-D. <br /><br />" I don’t know how modern audiences would respond to a Native American character called “Savage,”"<br />A lot better than they would to one named "Scalphunter". Fact is, "Savage' IS a last name. A line or two about how his family chose to wear proudly a name given to shame them would probably put it to rest. Or have the name instead what it usually is: an English one (that his family happend to have married into). Irony is not unknown in comics! Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112155718721908876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-14839480854965434912022-05-30T11:44:23.821-05:002022-05-30T11:44:23.821-05:00Hey Scipio, glad to see you posting regularly agai...Hey Scipio, glad to see you posting regularly again! <br /><br />Re Bat-Lssh: the stories in those seven issues were decent, the humor hit-or-miss at best (maybe don’t hand the scripting duties to Denny O’Neil if you want your comic to be funny?), but the art… ggggorgeous! Nick Cardy did a great job with Teen Titans and other books, but the last three or four issues of Bat-Lash are possibly his best work. I’m sure that’s the main reason the character has popped up anywhere since 1975.<br /><br />Re Scalphunter: I don’t know if you know, but M****l has a character who used that code name. He barely made appearances after the ‘80s, but came back using his last name, Greycrow, in the pages of a recent X-Men spin-off called Hellions. Zeb Wells made him a compelling character by giving him a personality beyond “bad guy”and it’s one of the simplest and best comebacks I’ve seen in a comic.<br /><br />Anyway, I don’t know how modern audiences would respond to a Native American character called “Savage,” unless the writer found a way to properly contextualize the name.<br /><br />Looking forward to part 3!<br /><br />- Mike Loughlin, former regular commenter Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11737441.post-69392221857935560872022-05-30T05:56:33.771-05:002022-05-30T05:56:33.771-05:00I am intrigued!
Sharp eye, how Jonah Hex is the c...I am intrigued!<br /><br />Sharp eye, how Jonah Hex is the connective tissue for the Western heroes. That's a lot more useful than my Wally West idea (although, I will mention in passing, that Max Mercury was originally a white guy who was on terms with Native Americans in the 1800s, and got his speed powers from a shaman).<br /><br />About Brian Savage, I would swear that Apache Chief (who was neither Apache nor a chief) was visually modeled on Brian. The similarities are just too striking, and I can easily imagine the conversation at Hanna Barbera going like this:<br /><br />HB: So DC Comics, do you have any Native American heroes we could use?<br /><br />DC: Why yes, take a look at this guy!<br /><br />HB: Oh he looks magnificent! Yes, let's use him, what's his name again?<br /><br />DC: Scalphunter.<br /><br />HB: ::record scratch::<br /><br />HB: Let's, um, let's call him "Apache Chief" and give him super powers of some kind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com